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Knoppix, cloop
by Andreas Kretschmer 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Moin, Christian, liest Du mit? War da nicht mal ein Fehler im cloop-Teil von KNOPPIX? Ich habe hier einen HP ProLiant, 2*3 Ghz, auf dem Knoppix beim booten beim einbinden von cloop abkackt. An unterschiedlichen Stellen. Sowohl 3.3 als auch 3.4, TUDix, diverse Hackin9-CDs und so weiter. Was tut, ist: - KNOPPIX 3.1 - RedHat Rescue-CD - Susi 9.1 Live Weder Knoppix 3.1 noch Rotkäpchen haben Unterstützung für den RAID-Controller, SuSi aber. Dafür hat Susi kein partimage, aber es gibt ja noch netcat ;-) Jedenfalls: ist Dir oder anderen bekannt/erklärbar, warum es zu den cloop-Problemen kommt? Und was bei 3.1 anders ist als 3.3 / 3.4? Andreas -- Andreas Kretschmer (Kontakt: siehe Header) Tel. NL Heynitz: 035242/47212 GnuPG-ID 0x3FFF606C http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net === Schollglas Unternehmensgruppe ===

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LUG Treffs Juli/August
by Konrad Rosenbaum 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

Hi, das Gag18 macht ab demnächst Sommerpause, also müssen die nächsten drei Treffen woanders stattfinden. Allgemein akzeptierter Vorschlag war für den Moment die Torwirtschaft am Großen Garten. Konrad -- New GPG-Key: A2DA207D Fingerprint: ACEB BA51 4C77 A030 0687 2B58 0A5B 7BEB A2DA 207D

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Perl Mongers Treffen Juli
by Steffen Schwigon 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hi! Am kommenden Donnerstag treffen sich wieder die Perl Mongers. Donnerstag, 15.Juli 2004 2o.oo Uhr in der "Wir AG" (ehemals "Club für Dich") Martin-Luther-Str. 21 Das ist in der Neustadt gegenüber der Lutherkirche, wo sich davor so'ne große *Perl*e (1) im Wasserbett dreht. Wer über Perl oder auch über was anderes reden mag, ist eingeladen. Wir sind nett und entspannt. Themen: * neues Wiki, neue Homepage * Perlworkshop-Nachbereitung * Nächster Perlworkshop in Dresden? * Perlmongers auf'm Linux-Info-Tag? * misc GreetinX Steffen (1) Das mir das nicht schon früher aufgefallen ist ... :-) -- Steffen Schwigon <schwigon(a)webit.de> Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

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lost interrupt
by Markus Ullmann 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hallo, ich habe seit einiger Zeit folgendes Problem: Nach einer verschieden langen Zeit bringt mein CD-Brenner folgenden Fehler: hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) Dann geht mit dem Laufwerk nichts mehr. Nach einem Neustart oder Reboot funktioniert wieder alles. Das Laufwerk ist ein Samsung SN-324 und ein Via Chipsatz. Darauf läuft ein Mandrake 10 mit Kernel 2.6.7. MfG Markus [root@warbird marul]# hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq = 1 (on) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 1 (on) readahead = 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument [root@warbird marul]# cat dmesg.txt [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5 ACPI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 0000:00:11.1 PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing radeonfb: Invalid ROM signature 0 should be 0xaa55 radeonfb: Retreived PLL infos from BIOS radeonfb: Reference=27.00 MHz (RefDiv=12) Memory=250.00 Mhz, System=200.00 MHz spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7. radeonfb: Monitor 1 type LCD found radeonfb: EDID probed radeonfb: Monitor 2 type no found radeonfb: panel ID string: 1024x768 radeonfb: detected LVDS panel size from BIOS: 1024x768 radeondb: BIOS provided dividers will be used radeonfb: Power Management enabled for Mobility chipsets radeonfb: ATI Radeon Lf DDR SGRAM 64 MB vesafb: abort, cannot reserve video memory at 0xd0000000 vesafb: framebuffer at 0xd0000000, mapped to 0xe1830000, size 1875k vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=67 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:5653 vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0 fb1: VESA VGA frame buffer device Machine check exception polling timer started. IA-32 Microcode Update Driver: v1.13 <tigran(a)veritas.com> udf: registering filesystem Initializing Cryptographic API ACPI: AC Adapter [AC0] (on-line) ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery absent) ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Lid Switch [LID] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports C1 C2, 16 throttling states) ACPI: Thermal Zone [THRM] (75 C) isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48 lp: driver loaded but no devices found Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Using anticipatory io scheduler Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.1 ACPI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 0000:00:11.1 VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt8235 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:11.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio hda: FUJITSU MHR2030AT, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hdc: Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-324B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: max request size: 1024KiB hda: 58605120 sectors (30005 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) hda: hda1 hda2 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 > hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 libata version 1.02 loaded. ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394' Yenta: CardBus bridge found at 0000:00:0b.0 [1584:3000] Yenta: ISA IRQ mask 0x0018, PCI irq 10 Socket status: 30000007 ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 10, pci mem e1a29700 ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2004-May-10 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 11, io base 0000e000 uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#2) uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 10, io base 0000e400 uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#3) uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 5, io base 0000e800 uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice i8042.c: Detected active multiplexing controller, rev 1.0. serio: i8042 AUX0 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 AUX1 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1 Firmware: 4.1 Sensor: 8 new absolute packet format input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio2 serio: i8042 AUX2 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 AUX3 port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0 oprofile: using NMI interrupt. NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 32Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 65536) ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4095 buckets, 32760 max) - 296 bytes per conntrack ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team ipt_recent v0.3.1: Stephen Frost <sfrost(a)snowman.net>. http://snowman.net/projects/ipt_recent/ arp_tables: (C) 2002 David S. Miller NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 powernow: PowerNOW! Technology present. Can scale: frequency and voltage. powernow: FSB: 133.024 MHz powernow: Found PSB header at c00fb500 powernow: Table version: 0x12 powernow: Flags: 0x0 (Mobile voltage regulator) powernow: Settling Time: 100 microseconds. powernow: Has 31 PST tables. (Only dumping ones relevant to this CPU). powernow: PST:23 (@c00fb72c) powernow: cpuid: 0x781 fsb: 133 maxFID: 0x3 startvid: 0xb powernow: FID: 0x6 (6.0x [798MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0x8 (7.0x [931MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0xa (8.0x [1064MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0xc (9.0x [1197MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0xe (10.0x [1330MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0x0 (11.0x [1463MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: FID: 0x3 (12.5x [1662MHz]) VID: 0xb (1.450V) powernow: SGTC: 13333 powernow: Minimum speed 798 MHz. Maximum speed 1662 MHz. Resume Machine: <6>usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using address 2 resuming from /dev/hda6 Resuming from device hda6 Resume Machine: This is normal swap space PM: Reading pmdisk image. PM: Resume from disk failed. ACPI: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5) RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-1:1.0: 4 ports detected VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Freeing unused kernel memory: 192k freed usb 1-1.4: new low speed USB device using address 3 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech Optical USB Mouse] on usb-0000:00:10.3-1.4 usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio Generic RTC Driver v1.07 EXT3 FS on hda5, internal journal Adding 594364k swap on /dev/hda6. Priority:-1 extents:1 agpgart: Detected VIA P4X266 chipset agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda7, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. NTFS driver 2.1.14 [Flags: R/O MODULE]. NTFS volume version 3.1. ohci1394: $Rev: 1223 $ Ben Collins <bcollins(a)debian.org> ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[10] MMIO=[dffff800-dfffffff] Max Packet=[2048] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[00030d4325107e12] ip1394: $Rev: 1224 $ Ben Collins <bcollins(a)debian.org> ip1394: eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0) via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.20-2.6 May-23-2004 Written by Donald Becker eth1: VIA VT6102 Rhine-II at 0xdffff600, 00:a0:cc:dd:77:ca, IRQ 11. eth1: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x7869 advertising 05e1 Link 41e1. eth1: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 41e1. irda_init() NET: Registered protocol family 23 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.11.0 20020828 on minor 0: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [Radeon Mobility 9000 M9] agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 1x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 1x mode [drm] Loading R200 Microcode atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program, like XFree86, might be trying access hardware directly. atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program, like XFree86, might be trying access hardware directly. NET: Registered protocol family 10 Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c0401b00(lo) IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver eth1: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 41e1. Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c0401b00(lo) eth1: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 41e1. eth1: no IPv6 routers present PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:11.5 to 64 nfs warning: mount version older than kernel hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) hdc: lost interrupt hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA9QtpKwqd7htONAcRAulvAJoDQLIrughDxadUcZylG58CVSztJgCeNBIR HdrPlxeF2QtsuFMok3cj1LA= =itri -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Kernel Bug?
by Marek Werstak 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Hallo, nach einem Kernelupdate bekomme ich sporadisch folgende Ausgabe: vector: 700 at pc = 00001004, lr = c000875c msr = 81000, sp = c0387f90 [c0387ee0] current = c0311930, pid = 0, comm = swapper mon> Danach kann ich nichts mehr machen. Ausschalten und Einschalten. Hat jemand von Euch eine Idee? Kann ich es auf einen Kernelbug schieben? pegasos-dev-sources-2.6.7-r1 Liebe Grüsse Marek

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zwei Nachrichten: PHP 5 und Phrack 62
by Alvaro Aguilera 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

Heute wurden PHP5 (stable) und Phrack 62 freigegeben! mehr bei: http://php.net und http://www.phrack.org viel Spass!

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gefährlich, gefährlich ...
by Alexander Tomisch 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

..//////.. ~ ..(o)(o)..... ~ ...(__).... ~ ....(_)..... Güden tog ~ ....(_).. ~ .....(_).... ~ .....(_)..... isch bin en hägga aus Leipzsch ....(_).... ~ ...(_).... un diss iss en selbstprögrammirder ...(_)..... ...(_)... bösartscher Compjuderwurm. .....(_).... ....(_)... ...(_).. ~ ...(_)... Da isch noch net sö viel weeß vom Compjuder ..(_)..... .(_)... iss des en manueller Wurm. ..(_).... ...(_)..... ....(_)... .....(_).... Also löschen se bidde .....(_).... ....(_)... alle Dadeien von de Festpladde ~ ...(_).. ..(_)..... .(_)... ..(_).... und schickese den Wurm ...(_)..... ....(_)... an alle die se kennen. ~ .....(_)... .....(_).... ....(_)... ...(_). Vielen Dank für Ihre Mitarbeid.

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exim: Mesage frozen seit dnsmasq
by Thomas Guettler 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

Hallo, Seit dem ich den DNS Cache dnsmasq verwende, sind Emails die ich schreibe während ich offline bin, sofort "frozen". Bisher (ohne dnsmasq) wurde die Email bis ich online ging in der Queue von Exim behalten. ===> cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 Fehler-Email: Message 1BkQE2-0000Ut-00 has been frozen. The sender is <guettli(a)thomas-guettler.de>. The following address(es) have yet to be delivered: foo(a)bar.de: lookup of host "smtp.1und1.com" failed in smarthost router Eine Lösungsmöglichkeit währe vielleicht in /etc/hosts für smtp.1und1.com die IP-Adresse anzugeben, doch dann muss ich die Datei anpassen, wenn mein Provider die IP ändert. Hat jemand eine Idee? Version: Exim3 von Debian stable Gruß, Thomas -- Thomas Guettler <guettli(a)thomas-guettler.de> http://www.thomas-guettler.de

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DAU-Frage zum Gnome-Filemanager Nautilus
by Matthias Petermann 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

Hallo Leute, mal ganz dumm gefragt: Hat jemand von euch Gnome 2.6.1 im Einsatz und kann mir einen heißen Tipp geben, wie ich den Nautilus dazu bringen kann, bei vom Desktop aus geöffneten Ordnern nicht für jeden angeklickten Unterordner ein neues Fenster zu öffnen? Das ist äußerst störend und ich konnte keine entsprechende Konfigurations- option finden. Als Workaround kann ich den zu öffnenden Ordner mit gedrückter Shift-Taste anklicken, dabei springt das Fenster aber ulkig auf dem Bildschirm rum - das find ich auch nicht so toll. Grüße Matthias -- ,MN NM, PPPP, Matthias Petermann . Cell: +49 172 878 43 76 NM NN MN PP PP http://www.glesir.de/~mp MM MM PPPP' mailto: matthias.petermann(a)gmx.de --MM----MM-PP--------------------------------- DSA key ID 28DC2ACA ----

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GNUStep Frage
by Carsten Friede 13 Jul '04

13 Jul '04

Moin. Ich bin gerade dabei mich mit Windowmaker anzufreunden, und bin auf GNUSTep gestoßen. Also habe ich gleich per emerge ein paar Sachen gezogen, wie gworkspace und fsviewer. Allerdings finde ich diese Programme nirgendwo und kann sie weder durch ein "Run" im WMaker oder von xterm aus starten. Wo sind die Sachen? Ich meine, was fuer einen Sinn macht es ein gnustep-gui zu installieren, wenn das nirgendwo auftaucht? MfG Carsten -- ====================================================== Dresden University of Technology Department of Computer Science Dresden, Germany ======================================================

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